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    Unhappy To upgrade or not

    This doesn't reflect on me as much as others as I'm happy with the results of my system. I was considering maybe change a cpu and board but as it stands at 3440x1440 a ryzen 7 2700, 2700x and intel i7 8700k pretty much levels out with the exception of 5fps or so.

    However I've been chatting with a friend today and the prices of cpus are absolutely abysmal. Using wootware pricing, last year I got an i7 8700k for around R6200. The price now is R7400. My Ryzen 2700 was also R1200 cheaper.

    But high tier graphics cards however are at an all time low. If you are a budget gamer than even the 1060 will be out of your reach. It's kind of a pathetic scenario. On the other hand if you are a modest spender than the 1070, 1070ti and 1080 are all going for very decent pricing relative to their performance. Infact I dare say with 1080s still going brand new for R7000 - R8000 there is hardly a performance competing card. That said even the 1070ti that can be had for R6500 makes just as an appealing card. Even a 1070 at R6000 is pretty solid.

    So what about AMD cards? Sadly the Vega series which competes with the 1070 and 1080 are overpriced AF.
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    I think you should go for a 9900k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarBound View Post
    This doesn't reflect on me as much as others as I'm happy with the results of my system. I was considering maybe change a cpu and board but as it stands at 3440x1440 a ryzen 7 2700, 2700x and intel i7 8700k pretty much levels out with the exception of 5fps or so.

    However I've been chatting with a friend today and the prices of cpus are absolutely abysmal. Using wootware pricing, last year I got an i7 8700k for around R6200. The price now is R7400. My Ryzen 2700 was also R1200 cheaper.

    But high tier graphics cards however are at an all time low. If you are a budget gamer than even the 1060 will be out of your reach. It's kind of a pathetic scenario. On the other hand if you are a modest spender than the 1070, 1070ti and 1080 are all going for very decent pricing relative to their performance. Infact I dare say with 1080s still going brand new for R7000 - R8000 there is hardly a performance competing card. That said even the 1070ti that can be had for R6500 makes just as an appealing card. Even a 1070 at R6000 is pretty solid.

    So what about AMD cards? Sadly the Vega series which competes with the 1070 and 1080 are overpriced AF.
    Apparently there is a polaris refresh coming in a few days, but I am doubtful it will be anything other than a gimmick. Think 480 to 580 type rebranding. The cost of a PC is mind blowing now. My system is nearing 7 years old now, but I simply cannot afford to upgrade. I will wait on a GPU eventually, and luckily at 1080p my 970 is still solid for 60fps, and that's good enough for me right now. I'm gonna basically not upgrade anything else unless something major breaks. I wish I could, but I am saving for a 1080 and thats that. Everything else is out of my reach im afraid.

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    I just did a major redo of my system. Had an I7 2600, with 1050ti. Decided to go big and got nice deals on Carb. Busy building into a new case as wel. I7 7700 and my new pride 1080ti. Saving a bit to get a Nvme ssd before starting it all up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaPaBeeR View Post
    I just did a major redo of my system. Had an I7 2600, with 1050ti. Decided to go big and got nice deals on Carb. Busy building into a new case as wel. I7 7700 and my new pride 1080ti. Saving a bit to get a Nvme ssd before starting it all up.
    If you're going for nvme for the speed it really isn't much faster than an ssd in real life. I have both and although in speed tests the nvme crushes my ssd, actual real life feel is the same. It does help space wise though, having one less drive taking up physical space in the tower means less cables.

    My nvme is a Samsung 950 and my ssd is a Samsung 850.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuiXilver View Post
    If you're going for nvme for the speed it really isn't much faster than an ssd in real life. I have both and although in speed tests the nvme crushes my ssd, actual real life feel is the same. It does help space wise though, having one less drive taking up physical space in the tower means less cables.

    My nvme is a Samsung 950 and my ssd is a Samsung 850.
    I have an ADATA SSd 240gb but also got a 160gb samsung now (not sure of the model). Space is not a problem, the new case is a Corsair 600. Huge ass case with hidden SSdx3 and 2x 3.5" hdd bays.

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    How much for the ryzen Cpu?

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    So we can all agree that right now is perhaps the ****tiest time to upgrade or replace your pc. However (and take this with a grain of salt) I came across this video. Considering the price of the 1070 paying sub 2k for your cpu and sub 2k for your mobo then forking 6k into your gpu seems like a real possibility.

    Intel G5400 is around R1200 but the H370 board is gonna cost you over R2k.
    Ryzen 3 1200 on the other hand is a proper quad core for R1600 and the B450 board can be gotten for R1800 to. You can always opt for the Ryzen 3 2200G if you want to play on a budget before investing into a graphics card but I would say get that 1070.



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    1080p with a budget Cpu + 1070 will result in terrible bottlenecking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Row-_S View Post
    1080p with a budget Cpu + 1070 will result in terrible bottlenecking
    At that budget you don't have a monitor that does more than 1080p60hz anyway so who cares if the games bottleneck at 80-100fps. Besides if you ever feel the need, especially on the ryzen board, you can always put in a cpu with more cores and threads later down the line.

    Also a few months ago one of the bigger youtubers did do a bottleneck test and the results were surprising. The 1% lows were lower but they managed to get a G4560 and GTX1080 to give a decent performance.
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