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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyt Ryda View Post
    Top end is already R55k+ with the $2500 Titan RTX.

    I firmly believe AMD has a 2080Ti killer (by 15-25%) in the 80cu RDNA2 big Navi that should come in at $999. This should keep NVIDIA on their toes.

    Worst case we get an 11Gb RTX3080 that matches big Navi at 115% 2080Ti performance whilst being a Raytracing champ for $999 (R23k) and an RTX3090 at a new $1500 price point (R34k) which is significantly faster.
    Aren't the rumors on the 3090 being a 24gb beast? If it is can see it being higher then $1500 in the $2-2.5k range

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    I'm really not going to dive into rumours. If AMD had a 2080ti killer that was priced better they should have released it. Last time nvidia acted on a rumour they released the 1080ti. We have 4 cards that are matching or faster than it today. The 5700XT, RTX2080 are matching it. The RTX2080S and RTX2080ti are faster. However the only card I see as a successor is the 2080ti since it keeps its 11GB vram.

    My stance has primerily remained unchanged. If next month new hardware is available, hold off to see what you can get. If not look at what your current need is.

    When I switched from my 580 to 680 I first wanted the Radeon 7950 which had the same performance as the 580 but at a lower power consumption. Then a month later I wanted the 7970 which had more performance but the power cost was a bit higher. Then yet another month later I got the 680 which had the same power consumption as the 7950 but with the performance of the 7970.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ INC View Post
    Aren't the rumors on the 3090 being a 24gb beast? If it is can see it being higher then $1500 in the $2-2.5k range
    That's the rumoured next gen Titan RTX (the current Titan RTX also has 24Gb VRAM), which should slot in at $2500 again.

    These are the latest rumours :
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    I think they're fairly accurate.
    An RTX 3080 with the sames cores as a 2080Ti but with the Ampere architecture improvements and much faster memory (19Gbps vs 14Gbps on current Ti) means we definitely could see a 3080 being 120-130% of the stock 2080Ti whilst being a bit cheaper.

    There were some Brazillians that replaced the stock the 14Gbps on a 2080Ti and soldered on 16Gbps "Super" memory, then took that to 17.2Gbps.

    Those Brazillians ended up with a 11460 Superposition Extreme 1080p score.
    To put that into perspective, that 2080Ti with stock core clocks and just the mem at 17.2Gbps puts it in the top 15 of the Superposition charts dominated by LN2 cooled 2080Tis.

    That's well inline with that previous leaked benchmark of an unknown NVIDIA GPU at 130% the performance of the 2080Ti.

    And that's just the 3080, the 3080Ti/3090 is still coming too.
    August and September should be exciting

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    The big question is how will the cards fair with RT enabled. A 30% in rasterized tasks doesn't mean that much to me tbh as most games already max out at 3440x1440 100fps with a few exceptions. I'd like to see how games like BF5, Metro Exodus, Control end up with RT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarBound View Post
    The big question is how will the cards fair with RT enabled. A 30% in rasterized tasks doesn't mean that much to me tbh as most games already max out at 3440x1440 100fps with a few exceptions. I'd like to see how games like BF5, Metro Exodus, Control end up with RT.
    At that res on a 2080Ti, AC Odyssey Ultra is only averaging around 75FPS and RDR2 Ultra around 55FPS.
    But when you drop some settings it goes way up.

    I'm also curious if those DLSS 3.0 rumours are true. Enabling DLSS 3.0 in every new game with TAA if you get the game ready driver on release day for it sounds like easy free performance boosts.


    Overall I'm excited to move from a 1080Ti to an RTX3080 after almost 3 years.
    I'm expecting to be way closer to the 141 FPS limit I have set on my 1440p/144Hz GSync Compatible monitor before game fidelity increases and more intensive Raytracing brings me back down.

    Although after this card my upgrade funds will be gone for quite a long time lol.
    Hopefully my 5GHz 9900k, 32Gb Corsair DDR4 3200MHZ, Samsung 3.5GB/s 970 Evo Plus NVME and an upcoming 3080 (or best card under R25k) will last me 2-3 years until there's AM5/LGA1700 CPUs with DDR5 and possibly PCIe 5.0 NVMEs.

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    Noticed you mentioned a 141fps limit on a 144hz monitor so I can assume you also watched some of battle-nonsense videos where he said limit your fps to a few frames lower than your monitors max refresh rate to keep gsync always on and input latency as low as possible. I capped my frame at at 98fps on my 100hz monitor. 140fps on my 144hz monitor.
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    How big of a deal is RT at the moment? Are there enough games utilising it to make it worth upgrading from my 1080Ti - gaming at 1440p@144Hz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamVImes View Post
    How big of a deal is RT at the moment? Are there enough games utilising it to make it worth upgrading from my 1080Ti - gaming at 1440p@144Hz?
    Imo, not enough and not good enough. An example would be quake 2 RTX where you literally see the pixels that are ray traced fade in and out. But if you are looking for those performance ranges and you don't have a 10 series card you don't really have other options except going AMD or getting it with the super cards anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyt Ryda View Post
    Ampere can't come soon enough.
    My 1080Ti is out of warranty at the end of October and the 2000 series is just a joke for the price you have to pay.

    I just want a 12Gb 3080Ti that's 25% faster than the 2080Ti for under R25k. Come on Jensen, take my money already.
    Sell me the 1080TI when you upgrade. R1000 & bag of chips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrBaN View Post
    Sell me the 1080TI when you upgrade. R1000 & bag of chips.
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